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April 8th, 2010
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Yeah, I gotcher Confederate History Month right here, pal.
So the Governor of Virginia has decided to declare April Confederate history month. Oddly enough, he forgot to mention that slavery was involved but has since added some verbage about it.

I really think he doesn’t want to go there, but OK, let’s reflect on Confederate history. Start by reading Fengi’s excellent post about it. Some of what I write below restates it, because it bears repeating.

Here’s Confederate history: A bunch of traitorous slavers decided to commit treason in order to preserve and expand the institution they called “Negro slavery.” Virginia wasn’t among the first slavers to opt for treason, but when the question was before them the decided to go with treason in order to preserve and expand slavery instead of patriotism, loyalty, or even basic human decency.

Don’t be fooled by people mumbling and hand-waving about “states rights.” The “right” the traitor states committed treason to preserve was the “right” to enslave black people.

Don’t be fooled by people mumbling and wand-waving about trade or taxation disputes. From the moment it was first proposed that we abolish slavery during the drafting of the Constitution until the treason finally occurred, slavery was a bitter issue between those who enslaved and those who did not, and every other issue between them became a bitter proxy fight over slavery.

Don’t be fooled by people mumbling and hand-waving about how enslaving black people was the province of a white and wealthy aristocracy that kept a white and poor underclass in line by letting them console themselves that they weren’t as low in the social order as black people, enslaved or free. That doesn’t mean that the white non-slavers didn’t commit treason in order to preserve a system of racist enslavement, it explains why they committed treason in order to preserve it.

Don’t be fooled by people mumbling and hand-waving about “preserving a way of life.” No one was worried about losing barbeque, cotillions, the Kentucky Derby, or mint juleps. The only “way of life” in question was enslaving black people.

We in the North put down these traitors, and we should be every bit as proud of it as we are that we put down the Nazis – and for pretty much the same reasons. We certainly could have handled our racism better, but then we certainly could have handled our anti-Semitism better before, during, and after WWII as well. But this is Confederate History Month. (Perhaps we can make May “Atrocity of American Slavery History Month” and talk about the North’s initial direct involvement and later complicity in slavery then.)

Similarly, it is incumbent on those who have the misfortune to be descended from the traitor slavers to repudiate the treason of their ancestors and celebrate their defeat in the same way that modern Germans repudiate the Nazis and celebrate their defeat. No one who is proud of the Confederate treason can legitimately be called a patriot. Let us hope that the Governor’s recent recollection of why his predecessors committed treason leads to a truly appropriate rememberance.

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From:sajia
Date:April 8th, 2010 04:57 pm (UTC)
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Here from deluxe vivens. Thank you. I blame Gone with the Wind (dangerous precisely because it is better written than 90 percent of Harlequin historicals).
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From:fengi
Date:April 8th, 2010 07:33 pm (UTC)
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Dude. Awesome. Especially "slavery was a bitter issue between those who enslaved and those who did not, and every other issue between them became a bitter proxy fight over slavery."
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From:pawmetto
Date:April 9th, 2010 03:09 am (UTC)

Change in the South

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"I am the descendant of slaveowners and I agree with all of these things. But I think to reach said point requires the same sort of institutional change in the South that is also necessary in Japan, to the effect that outside of a few "war is bad" type mumblings, they acknowledge their massive atrocities in the Second World War only to the extent that they clutch their pearls about how rude it is to bring them up."

You are confused aren't you? We did not commit the massive attrocities in the South during that war as the yankees did. DUH! Another victim of the leftist cult on college campuses or worse still government indoctrinated public schools. No southern army captured innocent women and old men who worked in textile facories as Sgerman did in New Manchester and Roswell Georgia and shipped them in RR cars to the North to never see their families again even after the war.
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From:pawmetto
Date:April 9th, 2010 04:15 am (UTC)

Re: Change in the South

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Here is the link Mr. Duped Scalawag

http://www.amazon.com/Mary-Deborah-Petite/e/B001JRV502/ref=ntt_athr_dp_pel_pop_1

I will not lower myself to use profanity to describe you and your kind.
PS Even worse than I thought, "a private school"
From:pawmetto
Date:April 9th, 2010 02:40 am (UTC)

Confederate History

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"We in the North put down these traitors, and we should be every bit as proud of it as we are that we put down the Nazis – and for pretty much the same reasons. We certainly could have handled our racism better, but then we certainly could have handled our anti-Semitism better before, during, and after WWII as well. But this is Confederate History Month. (Perhaps we can make May “Atrocity of American Slavery History Month” and talk about the North’s initial direct involvement and later complicity in slavery then,)

Really? Then perhaps that explains how the yankees and Sherman in particular "took care" of the Native Americans using "Buffalo Soldiers" in the GENOCIDAL raid on them in the Sand Creek massacre where 163 Cheyenne were murdered as well as other atrocities against Native Americans. Maybe then June should be native American Atrocity month?
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From:holzman
Date:April 9th, 2010 05:36 am (UTC)

Re: Confederate History

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If by "Native American Atrocity Month" you mean a frank and honest owning of the fact that the United States committed a series of genocidal wars against the people who were living here before we were, I'd welcome it.

If this is sequitor to the topic of the unmitigated atrocity that was the slaver's treason, I'm not sure how.
From:delux_vivens
Date:April 9th, 2010 09:21 pm (UTC)

Re: Confederate History

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Somehow I dont see this person feeling quite the same outrage about the Pequot War or Andrew Jackson and indian removal...
From:pawmetto
Date:April 9th, 2010 03:15 am (UTC)

More on Confederate History

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"Similarly, it is incumbent on those who have the misfortune to be descended from the traitor slavers to repudiate the treason of their ancestors and celebrate their defeat in the same way that modern Germans repudiate the Nazis and celebrate their defeat. No one who is proud of the Confederate treason can legitimately be called a patriot."
Here is what is more like the Germans and NAZIS you INCORRECTLY tie to confederates..

"Everyone should read "The Real Lincoln" by Thomas DiLorenzo, professor of economics at Loyloa Univ.
It has detailed fact and sources that prove 1. Lincoln was a tyrant and jailed people illegally who did not agree with him.2.Lincoln was essentially a marxist and was admired and even corresponded with Karl Marx. Several of Marx supporters were Germans who were exiled came to America and were made colonels and generals in the Union army.3. Lincoln had a plan to ship all Africans he could back to Africa.4.Lincoln wrote William T Sherman and expressed glee that his army was torturing , raping, pillaging, and stealing innocent Southern civilians(old people, children, and women of ALL races) property and lives.
5.Other significant facts about his speeches and contradictions are brought to light as well.
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From:holzman
Date:April 9th, 2010 05:47 am (UTC)

Re: More on Confederate History

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Are you under the impression that Lincoln's crimes (Here I refer to the point 1, being a Marxist is no crime.) mitigate the crimes of the traitors?

Thomas DiLorenzo is the guy who whote that book about how the government should stop trying to get people to quit smoking because we'd save lots on social security if more people die young, right?
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From:witchsistah
Date:April 9th, 2010 06:24 am (UTC)
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I'm waiting for pawmetto to provide reasons why Blacks deserved to be enslaved because I know that crap is coming.

Edited at 2010-04-09 06:24 am (UTC)
From:delux_vivens
Date:April 9th, 2010 06:48 am (UTC)
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From:witchsistah
Date:April 9th, 2010 10:56 am (UTC)
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If that's butter toffee on that popcorn, I'll join ya!

*pours two glasses of red Kool Aid*
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From:wildwose
Date:April 13th, 2010 10:12 pm (UTC)
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As LiveJournal does not have a like button, I am forced to comment.

I like this gif. Thank you. Sums it up nicely doesn't it?
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From:holzman
Date:April 14th, 2010 05:47 am (UTC)
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It's good to see you here.
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From:willowrrain
Date:April 12th, 2010 12:50 pm (UTC)
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Well, you forgot the part about slavery happening in the north too. Its a vile institution, but you are rewriting the motives. Like lots of ugly things in human history, it was more about money and power on both sides than any true epiphany about the value of human life.
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From:holzman
Date:April 12th, 2010 01:09 pm (UTC)
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Did you actually read the post? Which part of "the North’s initial direct involvement and later complicity in slavery" did you fail to grasp? The fact that slavery was practiced in the north does not contradict the fact that the traitors in the south committed treason in order to expand and protect the institution of enslaving black people.

I am not rewriting the motives, I'm quoting the traitors themselves, who were kind enough to write their motives down. You did follow the link I provided to Virginia's "Ordinance of Succession, and the Confederate "Constitution," yes? They couldn't possibly have been plainer.

Nor is it any great epiphany about the value of human life that one ought not make a slave of another.
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